Here is the run down on career paths. This is unfortunate but team guys really don’t use this that much.
A lot of guys quit after SOCM in my class so they were thinking about moving the pipeline around to weed quitters out sooner. What would be your advice/thought? Outfuckingstanding training. These guys get to practice a ton and are always decked out with the best med gear. You are not a real 18D until you complete the long course. Everything I've ever heard says there's a 0% of that happening. Main reason is you're a medic, not the first guy in the door. First of all, don't listen to someone give advice about SF if they failed Selection.
If you are one of the following feel free to correct me, do not just post here-say. You are using an out of date browser. The PJ schoolhouse is currently the only course besides SOCM that is authorized to award the ATP (Advanced Tactical Paramedic, the joint SOF medic qual) but hasn't since the early 2010s because of a lack of need/benefits. Also more likely to have to do extended care. I also would like to go to halo and dive. But that is, of coarse, if it exists at all.
go 68w with option 40 (since my goal is to be an sf medic and later transition to the civilian med feild). But 18D's are part of a SF ODA. FAQ on 68W/SOCM/18D and being a medic Aug 18, 2019 Posted by: Ready Warrior We get asked multiple times a week if we have any advice to give for new 68w, those going to the SOCM course, or those interested in being a medic. PJs Go through the pipeline and from what I know they do their own thing and the medical training is kind of spread to different schools. For the past couple months I have been dead set in the 18x program. They will help you go where you want depending on how many slots are open.
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18D definitely does trauma when it happens, but there's more preventative care on locals and such. Most SARCs I know are DORs and thats okay, just to give people a gauge on the hardness of the pipeline. On the one hand my personality is probably better suited for SF. Which is an extra 4 months added on to the 9 of SOCM.
As a demolitions specialist, the engineer sergeant can carry out demolition raids against enemy targets, such as bridges, railroads, fuel depots, and critical components of infrastructure. It used to get you civilian. We have some of the best medics in the world. They also get probably the most room to practice how they want and they usually work away from support. I would probably try to take the Nremt test in socm after you do ACLS if i had to do it again because at that point you have everything you need to pass. If you go through the 68W program and then through the SOCM course later, it will blow your mind how much better the SOCM course is.
Army SF medics, Navy SEAL medics, and AF PJs all go to the Army Special Forces Medic school, which is much longer and more intense than the ‘regular’ medic / corpsman courses. The course qualifies 18D students in the advanced skills and knowledge required to . MagNeato wrote:I will say that all Ranger medics complete both the regular 68w medic course and SOCM and there is really no comparison.I get asked a lot in 2nd Batt what the course is like by the 11Bs and the best way i can describe it is by saying that regular medics are comparable to infantry AIT in terms of level of skill and SOCM grads are comparable to an 11B that has been in Batt a while. Here's what someone had to say about SOCM when I asked him. "The SOCM course is a motherfucker.
Freefall if you are lucky. Good eyesight, night vision and physical conditioning are required to reach mission objectives via parachute, land or water. Despite this they are still heavily used as medics on teams. I also would like to go to halo and dive. As far as 18B/C/D/E, other than then guard units, I've never heard of an 18 hopeful getting the MOS they want as a guaranteed hard choice. Is there any good reason that the longer, more expansive course lands you a lower level civilian medical cert? SOCM versus SOTM. They are unhappy with what they are doing because its not much. What are you hoping to get out of being a reservist is the question. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
What would be your advice/thought? Shorter 5-6 months. He later gave me some advice... go 68w with option 40 (since my goal is to be an sf medic and later transition to the civilian med feild).
From what I've read/heard, they pretty much fill the role of a PA for a platoon as well.18D description is pretty spot on for a white side ODA. Reach out and we'll help you get there. (18E), Special Forces Engineer Sergeant
SOCMs attend the course at Fort Bragg aka 18D. Do guys get ostracized in that situation?
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Then you can register for the motor skills later. Someone correct me if any of this is incorrect. Since people that need rescuing will likely be injured, all PJs are highly trained in emergency/trauma medicine. Not far from the south of Canada, 'Murica! What happens once you become a SEAL and wash out of SOCM? I also haven’t heard of any SOTMs doing augments with DG yet. Those that are assigned to Special Tactics Squadrons are technically required to maintain ATP but since when we augment NSW/USASOC/OGA we do it as a "Technical Rescue Specialist" instead of a "medic" we still don't really need the ATP.
The chance of you becoming an 18D, or a Medic in Ranger Regiment is pretty slim.
This is from my experience so take it for what it’s worth. I can add to the PJ (Air Force Pararescue) portion of the summary.
Especially if it’s something I really want I have to be willing to try as many times as it takes and not be worried about making it through the first time. Maybe the ranger route isn’t a bad one with the 68w contract. Ready to take the next step? 18Ds get to do a lot of medicine and usually get to stay out of transitioning over to a team lead or senior enlisted position for a little bit longer than most. You will learn more about medicine as an 18D than you will as a 68W W1 in Ranger Regiment. perform duties as a Special Forces Medical Sergeant. And are cross trained into other areas, engineering, intelligence, communications, weapons . I appreciate your input!
(68K), Medical Logistics Specialist Though they’re primarily trained with an emphasis on trauma medicine, they also have a working knowledge of dentistry, veterinary care, public sanitation, water quality and optometry.
I have a recruiter telling me that they pull brc grads for corpsman slots or something like that. You are managing assets such as ISR and the overall battlefield. I like the work the group guys do therefore I don’t think it be smart to waste my time going through rasp. Thanks man, that helps a lot. Find out more about the Army PaYS Program at http://www.armypays.com.
From what I understand, Rangers prettymuch do the most continued medical training.
The best way is to have it in your contract from the beginning, if you want to be a corpsman its easier to do that then go to the marines first and then transfer over. That is the basic rundown. We also really don’t go to the long course ever, although it can happen.
I think at sotm paramedic is towards the end of the pipeline where at socm its the first step and you can lose like 50 guys failing out. Special Forces Communications Sergeants provide conventional and unconventional tactical communications support during the full range of Special Operations missions. The pipeline is not guaranteed you have to get in where you fit in.
The combat medic specialist is primarily responsible for providing emergency medical treatment at point of wounding on the battlefield, limited primary care, and health protection and evacuation from a point of injury or illness. It’s good stuff to have. I have never met someone who has quit from another pipeline even get the chance to make it to BUD/s, just saying...A lot of green berets are great dudes though.
They have been under constant fire since they fast-roped in. Academics taught at Kirtland AFB in NM and clinical rotations at ER/Fire Departments at various big cities. This applies to any branch. They have the same medical training. Special Forces Medical Sergeants are required to maintain their medical licenses and skills annually. I would highly suggest going to Bragg if you can. Ranger Medic 68W then Rasp then SOCM.
How Special Forces Medics Can Become Physician Assistants. You get a SOTM card and civilian paramedic coming out which allows you to do work only in NSW. The medic teaches every Ranger these skills.
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Yeah when i went through it wasn’t you just had to take the ATP exam and pass to graduate. They receive no clinical/routine/sick-call training outside of the common field illnesses.
18D You will go selection then SOCM then Q course then back for long course then finish out. You don’t get BAH so you are given a barracks spot but most dudes just live out in town anyways as rent is cheap. I want to be in recon but I'm an emt already and enjoy the thought of being behind enemy lines helping gunshot victims that don't have access to the right care. Ranger is trauma based. To me I feel like I’d be playing into fears of not passing sf selection instead of fully committing to sf. What gets a lot of guys is its the first time in their life they have really had to study for something. I was stuck between these as well. The thing about the army and being a 68W ranger is if you fail out of SOCM you go to the regular army. Even though you passed rasp, ranger regiment is based on MOS. This changes though so you could go through at the end.
He had been to sfas but was a 21 day non select. Those interested in this job may be eligible for civilian employment, after the Army, by enrolling in the Army PaYS program. (18B), Combat Medic Specialist This is a lot of places though. Ranger is trauma based. as supervised providers in CONUS environments, and allowing 18D’s to provide health care as independent providers OCONUS
In the Army, qualified students can earn full-tuition, merit-based scholarships, allowances for books and fees, plus an annual stipend for living expenses. Assuming you will study your ass off. From my understanding is that only a couple units actually deploy as SOF attached to other units.
The rest are in the rescue wings and do things like the television show. I think I’d like the rangers and I’d probably have more respect in a sf group if I was a rangers but still can’t find the clarity I need before I sign. Anyone can pass it as long as you work for it. Get all the trauma skills but not all of the classroom clinical medicine.
As an officer you have more to worry about to be sucked into treating a patient, being an AW or a breacher. None of the guys I've met in 19th felt Ranger time was significantly important before getting their long tab; maybe it's just the guys I've met, but it's the overall perception I've gotten. And I can't stress that enough. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts.
You will have the option to put in for these courses throughout sqt. (18C), Special Forces Weapons Sergeant Covers everything required for NRP with an emphasis on trauma exposure.
I think its just bs and attrition rate. Special Forces Medical Sergeants are considered to be the finest first-response/trauma medical technicians in the world. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.